Luigi Auriemma

From: Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org>
To: john deo <kmeksz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: xbox audio banks
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:39:30 +0200

john deo <kmeksz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Either the magic numbers have changed or my code is wrong, what
> sample rate did you get?

Now it works perfectly, you can check the new version on my website
(0.3 uploaded just in this moment).
Let me know how it works.

Oh but what's your name or nick?


BYEZ


---
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Fuck You To
===========

All the leeching drones who ask me to add support for certain formats, but who
find it way too much effort to upload the formats they wish to have supported.

Luigi Auriemma for not crediting/thanking me for supplying him with certain xwb/vxb/sxb info.

From: Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org>
To: kmeksz@yahoo.com
Subject: About credits
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:21:06 +0100
X-Mailer:


Hey,

I think you can explain the following line in your "Fuck You To" section:

"Luigi Auriemma for not crediting/thanking me for supplying him with
certain xwb/vxb/sxb info."

I'm curious because you have been credited ("john deo" as you signed in
all your mails) not only on my website in the news but also in the
unxwb.c source code which is ever in my unxwb package from the far
August 2006 so I really don't understand that line.

I wait your reply.


BYEZ


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Luigi Auriemma
http://aluigi.org
http://forum.aluigi.org
http://mirror.aluigi.org

From: KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com>
To: Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org>
Subject: Re: About credits
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:25:24 -0800 (PST)


Dear Luigi,

Yes, you credited me for supplying me the files, no
problem there.
For me, supplying you with the files was no big deal,
however giving you in-depth details on the formats was
a decent gesture on my part, you did not seem to
appreciate that at all, nor did you credit me for it.

Also the name 'john deo' is just a bullshit name I
invented for this email account.
When you asked what name you should use to credit me I
said 'Kernel Master'/'KM', however you did not manage
to do that, at that stage I was totally convinced that
you did not appreciate the time I spent helping you
out.

Also I am very aware that the info I gave you was put
to use in your program as I checked out the source
code.

I really believe in people helping each other out,
however it practise it is usually a receipe for
frustration, as people rarely appreciate people being
decent towards them.
Hate it seems is so much stronger than love.

For your reference, here is the latest release info:
http://www.xbins.org/nfo.php?file=xboxnfo1629.nfo
As you can see I have gone to great lengths to list
all of the people who have helped me/contributed along
the way, including yourself.

If you still feel I have not been fair, then please
let me know why exactly.

Regards,

KM


--- Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org> wrote:

>
> Hey,
>
> I think you can explain the following line in your
> "Fuck You To" section:
>
> "Luigi Auriemma for not crediting/thanking me for
> supplying him with
> certain xwb/vxb/sxb info."
>
> I'm curious because you have been credited ("john
> deo" as you signed in
> all your mails) not only on my website in the news
> but also in the
> unxwb.c source code which is ever in my unxwb
> package from the far
> August 2006 so I really don't understand that line.
>
> I wait your reply.
>
>
> BYEZ
>
>
> ---
> Luigi Auriemma
> http://aluigi.org
> http://forum.aluigi.org
> http://mirror.aluigi.org
>


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From: Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org>
To: KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: About credits
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:58:34 +0100
X-Mailer:

KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For me, supplying you with the files was no big deal,
> however giving you in-depth details on the formats was
> a decent gesture on my part, you did not seem to
> appreciate that at all, nor did you credit me for it.

Hey KM,

the "details on the formats" were just some unsure offsets (by your same
admissions) which were almost useless to me in fact in my code I have
used the structures from the Microsoft documentation.

Then sincerely, the developer of a closed source program
distribuited with PECompact which talks about "giving details" or "code"
talking about an open source project is just funny other than ridiculous,
so please don't talk about code and info since you are on the wrong side.

And about the "I didn't appreciated it" you are not totally wrong
(unfortunately for me for the below reasons) since when someone really
contribuites to my projects I'm happy to say thanx to him publicly
through my source code and in some rare cases at runtime too.
You seems obsessed by these credits probably due to the closed source
nature of your work, that's what I think.

Due to your doubtful informations in fact I decided to do the work by
myself and compared it with your results, and in fact your info were
wrong in most parts since broke compatibility (my "Now it works
perfectly" in the last wasn't referred to the info you provided but to
the new version of my tool which worked perfectly due to my hard work
on it).

That's why you have not been credited for that but only for having
provided the XWB code which in any case remains a full credit to you, it
was not my "lapsus" I just decided to credit you for what you provided
which was enough useful to lead to a "credit" and NOT for the info.

It's the same if I say that you have credited me only for the ZWB format
although you had my source code in your hands; I'm not interested if you
used all those info or only a part, for me it's enough that you credited
me and if my code was useful to you I feel fine for that otherwise I
didn't write open source stuff.


> Also the name 'john deo' is just a bullshit name I
> invented for this email account.

The choice was between "John Deo" and KM (which can be anything from
Kevin Mitnick to kilometre), in both the cases useless identifiers.
If you don't put a full name (if you used "Kernel Master" I credited it
naturally) or a website of reference I can't guess it because I'm not a
magician, and since magicians don't exist I can't guess it in any other
case.


> When you asked what name you should use to credit me I
> said 'Kernel Master'/'KM'

I released my code publicy and credited you on my website BEFORE sending
you that mail ("you can check the new version on my website (0.3
uploaded just in this moment).") and in any case was MINE the idea to
ask you what was your nickname since you said nothing about you,
included your nickname.
From the 19 Aug 2006 the code has no longer been modified.

But probably you think I feel better crediting a "john deo" (which in
any case is better than john doe) instead of a better nickname.


> I really believe in people helping each other out,
> however it practise it is usually a receipe for
> frustration, as people rarely appreciate people being
> decent towards them.

I believe that people which have doubts about something talk with the
source of the doubt as I did with you now instead of shooting everything
directly on my forum or on my website without knowing your reasons first,
while you preferred to accuse me of something WRONG (documented by my
website, the source code of unxwb, the dates and the mails) instead of
sending me a mail of a couple of lines or just a simple "why don't you
have credited me for the info?" which was enough to take the discussion.

But probably I'm wrong, is better to put a person which helped you in the
"Fuck You To" section and waiting that the target of your false accuses
finds it casually an year later.


> For your reference, here is the latest release info:
> http://www.xbins.org/nfo.php?file=xboxnfo1629.nfo
> As you can see I have gone to great lengths to list
> all of the people who have helped me/contributed along
> the way, including yourself.

yes it's the same if I say "thanx to XYZ for having done almost nothing
although I have read your code" and then "XYZ fuck you .... bla bla bla
fuck you because you have called me Aluigi instead of Luigi!!!".
Wow this is really a great thing, my compliments to you and to your
"coherent philosophy" 8-)


> If you still feel I have not been fair, then please
> let me know why exactly.

It's not important what I think but what is objectively the wrong thing.
If I was in you now I felt a shit for having done a similar thing so
don't talk about words like "fair".


BYEZ


---
Luigi Auriemma
http://aluigi.org
http://forum.aluigi.org
http://mirror.aluigi.org

From: KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com>
To: Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org>
Subject: Re: About credits
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:37:47 -0800 (PST)

>the "details on the formats" were just some unsure
>offsets (by your same admissions) which were almost
>useless to me in fact in my code I have used the
>structures from the Microsoft documentation.

Yes in the case of xwb360 info, however I supplied you
with info on the other formats which you have made use
of.

-unxwb.c-

if(ext && (!stricmp(ext, "sxb") || !stricmp(ext,
"vxb")))

- I did not supply you with any vxb's, so you have
made use of my info right here.


>Due to your doubtful informations in fact I decided
to >do the work by myself and compared it with your
>results, and in fact your info were wrong in most
>parts since broke compatibility.

If the info I gave you was wrong then it's bizarre how
my program reads/parses these formats so well.

v1 Xwb support is still not correct in your app, maybe
you should have payed more attention what I told you.

Also there is another issue with your program reading
a certain file I supplied you with, due to you being
an ingrate, I will obviously not help you anymore.

>because you have called me Aluigi instead of Luigi!!!
Not correct, read again.

It was my plan to release the source to the program
eventually, however as no one has requested it I will
not consider it just yet.

As you can see, source was released for my other scene
tool:
http://www.xbins.org/nfo.php?file=xboxnfo1618.nfo

You seem very obsessed with closed source software,
i'm completely sure you use some/many closed source
programs which makes your logic as corrupt as mine.

>It's not important what I think but what is
>objectively the wrong thing.

This has everything to do with what you/I think, you
did not appreciate all my efforts, had you thanked
me/showed gratitude via email for atleast spending
time making notes on the formats to try to help you I
would not feel indignant.

>I believe that people which have doubts about
>something talk with the source of the doubt as I did
>with you now instead of shooting everything directly
>on my forum or on my website without knowing your
>reasons first.

I believe in people appreciating time other people
spend trying to help them in any way possible.
I believe in people not having conceited attitudes
towards the people who have tried to be decent to
them.
Also as is clear you see nothing wrong with your
behaviour, ergo it would have been a waste of my time
talking to you about it in private.


KM




--- Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org> wrote:

> KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > For me, supplying you with the files was no big
> deal,
> > however giving you in-depth details on the formats
> was
> > a decent gesture on my part, you did not seem to
> > appreciate that at all, nor did you credit me for
> it.
>
> Hey KM,
>
> the "details on the formats" were just some unsure
> offsets (by your same
> admissions) which were almost useless to me in fact
> in my code I have
> used the structures from the Microsoft
> documentation.
>
> Then sincerely, the developer of a closed source
> program
> distribuited with PECompact which talks about
> "giving details" or "code"
> talking about an open source project is just funny
> other than ridiculous,
> so please don't talk about code and info since you
> are on the wrong side.
>
> And about the "I didn't appreciated it" you are not
> totally wrong
> (unfortunately for me for the below reasons) since
> when someone really
> contribuites to my projects I'm happy to say thanx
> to him publicly
> through my source code and in some rare cases at
> runtime too.
> You seems obsessed by these credits probably due to
> the closed source
> nature of your work, that's what I think.
>
> Due to your doubtful informations in fact I decided
> to do the work by
> myself and compared it with your results, and in
> fact your info were
> wrong in most parts since broke compatibility (my
> "Now it works
> perfectly" in the last wasn't referred to the info
> you provided but to
> the new version of my tool which worked perfectly
> due to my hard work
> on it).
>
> That's why you have not been credited for that but
> only for having
> provided the XWB code which in any case remains a
> full credit to you, it
> was not my "lapsus" I just decided to credit you for
> what you provided
> which was enough useful to lead to a "credit" and
> NOT for the info.
>
> It's the same if I say that you have credited me
> only for the ZWB format
> although you had my source code in your hands; I'm
> not interested if you
> used all those info or only a part, for me it's
> enough that you credited
> me and if my code was useful to you I feel fine for
> that otherwise I
> didn't write open source stuff.
>
>
> > Also the name 'john deo' is just a bullshit name I
> > invented for this email account.
>
> The choice was between "John Deo" and KM (which can
> be anything from
> Kevin Mitnick to kilometre), in both the cases
> useless identifiers.
> If you don't put a full name (if you used "Kernel
> Master" I credited it
> naturally) or a website of reference I can't guess
> it because I'm not a
> magician, and since magicians don't exist I can't
> guess it in any other
> case.
>
>
> > When you asked what name you should use to credit
> me I
> > said 'Kernel Master'/'KM'
>
> I released my code publicy and credited you on my
> website BEFORE sending
> you that mail ("you can check the new version on my
> website (0.3
> uploaded just in this moment).") and in any case was
> MINE the idea to
> ask you what was your nickname since you said
> nothing about you,
> included your nickname.
> From the 19 Aug 2006 the code has no longer been
> modified.
>
> But probably you think I feel better crediting a
> "john deo" (which in
> any case is better than john doe) instead of a
> better nickname.
>
>
> > I really believe in people helping each other out,
> > however it practise it is usually a receipe for
> > frustration, as people rarely appreciate people
> being
> > decent towards them.
>
> I believe that people which have doubts about
> something talk with the
> source of the doubt as I did with you now instead of
> shooting everything
> directly on my forum or on my website without
> knowing your reasons first,
> while you preferred to accuse me of something WRONG
> (documented by my
> website, the source code of unxwb, the dates and the
> mails) instead of
> sending me a mail of a couple of lines or just a
> simple "why don't you
> have credited me for the info?" which was enough to
> take the discussion.
>
> But probably I'm wrong, is better to put a person
> which helped you in the
> "Fuck You To" section and waiting that the target of
> your false accuses
> finds it casually an year later.
>
>
> > For your reference, here is the latest release
> info:
> > http://www.xbins.org/nfo.php?file=xboxnfo1629.nfo
> > As you can see I have gone to great lengths to
> list
> > all of the people who have helped me/contributed
> along
> > the way, including yourself.
>
> yes it's the same if I say "thanx to XYZ for having
> done almost nothing
> although I have read your code" and then "XYZ fuck
> you .... bla bla bla
> fuck you because you have called me Aluigi instead
> of Luigi!!!".
> Wow this is really a great thing, my compliments to
> you and to your
> "coherent philosophy" 8-)
>
>
> > If you still feel I have not been fair, then
> please
> > let me know why exactly.
>
> It's not important what I think but what is
> objectively the wrong thing.
> If I was in you now I felt a shit for having done a
> similar thing so
> don't talk about words like "fair".
>
>
> BYEZ
>
>
> ---
> Luigi Auriemma
> http://aluigi.org
> http://forum.aluigi.org
> http://mirror.aluigi.org
>



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From: Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org>
To: KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: About credits
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:28:47 +0100
X-Mailer:

KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> if(ext && (!stricmp(ext, "sxb") || !stricmp(ext,
> "vxb")))
>
> - I did not supply you with any vxb's, so you have
> made use of my info right here.

Wow thanx for this "useful" and "essential" information, I will dedicate
an entire section of my website to you since without that
"!stricmp(ext, "vxb")" my tool can't work on that so "diffused"
extension!

I admit that you have real the "exact" view of what is useful, I go
immediately to contact the GNU developers telling them that if you want
to be credited for an useless extension (3 bytes) they need a monument
for having provided tons of useful and commented code (oh yes source
code) to the world for free.


> If the info I gave you was wrong then it's bizarre how
> my program reads/parses these formats so well.

That's a great news for the programming world, you are the only person
on the earth able to parse the same file in 2 or more different ways!
I don't know how you are able to do it but you are a genious since that
means you can handle a binary file which uses a known format (or an easy
reversable format) in different ways, yeah that's really incredible!


> v1 Xwb support is still not correct in your app, maybe
> you should have payed more attention what I told you.

Uhmm I'm confused... you say that I used "your info" but then I have not
used them?
Interesting... probably I have not "payed more attention what you told
me" because I wasn't interested in your info?
The important thing is that you was interested in my info and source
code, but no, I will not ask you to proove and I will not accuse you.
If you used them, based your code on them, took inspiration from them or
you improved them is better for you.


> Also there is another issue with your program reading
> a certain file I supplied you with, due to you being
> an ingrate, I will obviously not help you anymore.

Oh no please how I can live without those info!


> >because you have called me Aluigi instead of Luigi!!!
> Not correct, read again.

Seems that someone has not understood the example...


> It was my plan to release the source to the program
> eventually, however as no one has requested it I will
> not consider it just yet.

sure sure, here we say "e poi c'e' la marmotta che confeziona la
cioccolata" or "ed io divento papa", choose what you prefer.


> You seem very obsessed with closed source software,
> i'm completely sure you use some/many closed source
> programs which makes your logic as corrupt as mine.

No, I simply don't like that someone which had my source code in his
hands accuses me of something wrong while should be the contrary
(although I repeat that I'm not interested in that, but if you want to
continue on this way you will be ever on the wrong side).
Please don't continue to be ridiculous.


> I believe in people appreciating time other people
> spend trying to help them in any way possible.
> I believe in people not having conceited attitudes
> towards the people who have tried to be decent to
> them.

I believe in people appreciating what is really useful and that credit
people for what they have done of useful (and the fact that I have
credited you for the XWB files means that I appreciated it otherwise I
didn't credit you at all, so you continue to be wrong again, ufff) and
NOT in who is only able to shot shit on the people which thanked them.



> Also as is clear you see nothing wrong with your
> behaviour, ergo it would have been a waste of my time
> talking to you about it in private.

In fact now it's all public on my forum.


BYEZ


---
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http://aluigi.org
http://forum.aluigi.org
http://mirror.aluigi.org

From: KM <kmeksz@yahoo.com>
To: Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org>
Subject: Re: About credits
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:24:48 -0800 (PST)

I'm honored you have dedicated a forum thread to me.

Your last email I will not respond to as it was just
comprised of inane insults.

You admitted that you did not appreciate the time I
took to write the notes on the formats for you, yet
you did make use of them as proved in my last email.

That is the issue I have with you, the end.

Regards,

KM


--- Luigi Auriemma <aluigi@autistici.org> wrote: